A Recent Interview
One of my clients was interviewed recently, and here's what she shared...
Meet Roberta Moon from California. Previously, a state ranked swimmer, her athletic status supported a high calorie regime. However, after her swimming career:
“From age 20 to 45 I became a champ at compulsive overeating; and I was winning. Now, two days from my 53rd birthday, I’m only just feeling like I understand my history of eating (and, therefore, can predict my eating future). I attribute the A-ha moment to Andrea Thatcher. She asked me questions that had nothing to do with choosing food and putting it into my mouth. She fearlessly went deep, and made me one-hundred percent responsible. What her future clients need to know is that Andrea is a Food Issue Transformation Specialist. She is a complete game changer for people who are ready to give up or have already surrendered to the dark side.”
A brief interview led by writer Marie Beswick-Arthur, with Roberta Moon, who, perhaps like you: has had her shares of ups and downs, puts in long days, juggles a busy life, and sometimes doesn’t know which end is up. In this conversation she reveals an incredible awareness (about relationships with food) and makes a number of profound points. Enjoy and embrace—
Roberta, how did you meet Andrea Thatcher?
I met Andrea at a huge event and I gravitated to her immediately without knowing anything about her. My hubby is a popular leader, and he tends to get mobbed—which I find intimidating—so I usually just stand back and observe – I went to Andrea; not my usual MO.
Can you describe, in one word (or phrase) your relationship with food before you met Andrea?
Okay, it’s a powerhouse of a word; a standalone concept I’m sure will smack many who read this. So, how did you come to know about Never Diet Again?
Andrea introduced it, but only after I asked about what she did—she did not initiate speaking about it or pitch it to me.
Had you ‘dieted’ before? Can you share how often?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH—a million fucking days of every diet ever published.
Brilliant. A huge section of the population will enjoy (and identify) with that answer. Stellar. What had you viewed as your biggest challenge prior to ‘Andrea’?
Food monitoring (registering what and how much I ate). I did, however, have a genuine interest in understanding my poor, poor relationship with it.
And what has changed?
Andrea spoke to me in a way that made me think that there was a revolutionary way that I hadn’t tried.
Was there a catalyst?
I was getting sicker and sicker; needed help.
How does never dieting again impact your day to day?
It evens out my moods.
And your work?
I can work longer and harder. My overall energy is positively charged.
Have your thought patterns changed?
Definitely. Yes, I am more empowered—not quietly resentful
That’s an incredible statement: ‘not quietly resentful’. Again, I’m wondering how many of us have actually thought long and hard about how we might be ‘in an abusive relationship with food’. Profound, Roberta—to know that the chemical changes in your body—caused by food—had that kind of measurable result. Was it difficult to make the shifts you made?
No. Those Simple Shifts Andrea talks about easily become habit. You hardly notice, but your body calls out for more natural, and then you get some clarity. And the Upgrades not only affect my body nutritionally, the very act of upgrading lets me “tell myself” I’m worthy of that quality. Andrea makes it so easy—there are no massive wholesale changes of everything. I continue to make Simple Shifts and Upgrades—that’s the beauty; the process is ongoing.
What was the toughest thing you struggled with?
Maybe the weight coming off slowly; that and balancing my meds. I think many of us have unrealistic expectations when we integrate new ways—even when they’re natural, in that the body loves you’re doing it—and I think this is especially true with food (we’re geared for instant fixes and (I guess) we’re even used to the consistent failure we unconsciously attach to fad ‘dieting’, and that wears away at a person).
Was there a revelation when you began to change the way you thought about food?
I changed my food, and my thoughts changed. As my thoughts changed, I continued to change my food even more. The biggest thing was that my body no longer craved food that I’d thought I couldn’t live without. It’s hard to know what a balanced mood is until you have it.
Given there are no more cravings, has your favourite food changed?
YES. From French fries and donuts to—I’d have never believed this before I made the Simple Shifts and Upgrades—‘a big salad’. It’s unreal, the ‘quintessential DIET food’ I know, but it’s true: I love a big salad.
What advice would you give to others who might be skeptical that they can have the body and life they desire without dieting?
My advice is to call Andrea—she can share it way, way better than me—the whole concept is still a little bit of a mystery to me, and yet I know it works. The thing is, where I was at, I knew that giving up would ultimately mean an early death for me. I’m being totally serious here; early death.
How has your relationship with food changed?
It is secondary. Prior to meeting Andrea my relationship with food came even before the one I had with my family.
That’s huge. And it’s so incredibly honest. It shows so much awareness. I wonder if others might dare to hold that mirror up to their relationship priorities. So, how would you describe your current relationship with food?
Somewhat disinterested. In that I care about the quality, but I am no longer attached to the ritual, chaos, and mixed meanings I had assigned to food.
I’ve loved your openness, Roberta—anything else you’d like to share that I haven’t covered?
Andrea fucking saved my life—my hubby was just diagnosed with stage 4 cancer; Andrea helped me through it all. If my food had been like it was before, I wouldn’t be able to find the strength to deal with either the emotional or caregiving side of it all with him.
She is simply an angel on earth, and I feel privileged when I am with her. And believe me, I’m a hard ass on people, but she is the real deal. Humble, whip-smart, and compassionate.